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Just FYI.
It took him 9 months to create MW2 which is 21+ min. long and he promised to release MW3 in 2022.
I mean, when you know more or less what it takes to create another video, how can you make such a mistake in your schedule, so instead of 13 months max it takes almost 36! And there is still a chance it won't be released in 2024.
someone gotta tell me what MW2 and MW3 are in this context, because im constantly thinking about modern warfare. i know its been said already but I cant find it
its same as in games with PE. they think of Point event and im here thinking about minecraft pocket edition
 

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someone gotta tell me what MW2 and MW3 are in this context, because im constantly thinking about modern warfare. i know its been said already but I cant find it
its same as in games with PE. they think of Point event and im here thinking about minecraft pocket edition
Mother's Warmth, his longform project.
 
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Well I mean, I'm sure a lot of guys would get a turn off if he's in the middle of doing it and all the sudden they put a fucking male all the sudden. Unless some guys don't mind it or is into that shit. Personally it's a huge turn of for me. I don't care for NTR or cucking honestly.
Dunno if you’ve noticed but almost all the mother OC’s are married, including the one in his large project. Even his old game Tentacular is about slowly breaking a married woman and then fucking her during a webcam call with her husband.

Pretty clear indicator that this is one of the genres Jack would like to do.

Personally speaking I didn’t see Barnyard Bash as NTR because:

A) Anne is already cheating on her husband with Cole

B) The horse is just running on animal instinct, this isn’t some grand plot

C) It was a gold nomination script, so there’s a good chance this is never followed up on, the next time Anne features could be something completely different or back to the usual son bonking

D) We already know Cole watches Jackerman videos. In the first Southern Hospitality, we see he’s a member of Jack’s discord server on his computer screen, he’s a fan of this content, just like the rest of us. So him getting a boner isn’t cucking material, it’s him enjoying the show, as we all were.
 
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Dunno if you’ve noticed but almost all the mother OC’s are married, including the one in his large project. Even his old game Tentacular is about slowly breaking a married woman and then fucking her during a webcam call with her husband.

The Barneyard video if it was completely original wouldn't be NTR, because the son would just be some character we had never seen, wouldn't care about, but he was the lead in previous videos so it became NTR.

Very few people are going to care that these husbands are being cheated, in fact more may like the fact because they are into the cheating fetish. The husbands where never leads.
 
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The Barneyard video if it was completely original wouldn't be NTR, because the son would just be some character we had never seen, wouldn't care about, but he was the lead in previous videos so it became NTR.

Very few people are going to care that these husbands are being cheated, in fact more may like the fact because they are into the cheating fetish. The husbands where never leads.
Except...it isn't. The horse isn't stealing her. Its a horse that was set to have a breeding date with another horse and just banged the closest female there was at the time. There wasn't some master plan. And as I said before, this was a gold nomination, so the next time Anne features, this may not even be referenced again, because it could be someone else's idea.
 

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Except...it isn't. The horse isn't stealing her. Its a horse that was set to have a breeding date with another horse and just banged the closest female there was at the time. There wasn't some master plan. And as I said before, this was a gold nomination, so the next time Anne features, this may not even be referenced again, because it could be someone else's idea.
It looks like you're trying to say things, as if they make it not count for some reason. I'm not sure where you're from, but this is really simple, if your woman fucks an animal, most guys would not be happy with it.

If it wasn't suppose to be NTR, it shouldn't have involved an established character. Anyone with sense knows that, Dr Pinkcake forbids it as a request for his characters.
 
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It looks like you're trying to say things, as if they make it not count for some reason. I'm not sure where you're from, but this is really simple, if your woman fucks an animal, most guys would not be happy with it.
Except she isn't Cole's. Anne's bio goes into her character, namely that she really loves taking care of her family. It just goes into the porn logic territory of what 'taking care of their needs' entails. There isn't a couples relationship there to be broken, just a mother taking care of her children.

Also to your last sentence, Cole getting a boner from watching the scene kinda just disproves that notion. To reiterate, he is a Jackerman fan himself, so he basically just walked into a 'live action' short himself.
 

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Except she isn't Cole's. Anne's bio goes into her character, namely that she really loves taking care of her family. It just goes into the porn logic territory of what 'taking care of their needs' entails. There isn't a couples relationship there to be broken, just a mother taking care of her children.

Also to your last sentence, Cole getting a boner from watching the scene kinda just disproves that notion.
If you want to see the mom be fucked by a horse, that's fine, but understand how stupid it is for you to tell other viewers how they should feel. You keep going on about things as if they matter outside of these 5 minutes shorts.

The boy is having a sexual relationship with his mom, this is what the audience see's for 2 video's, she is shown have a sexual relationship with her son.

The mom then fucks a horse. People who liked the last 2 videos and don't like cuck stuff don't like that. I need you to understand that, if it wasn't suppose to be cuck it should not have involved that mom. If you're going to disagree don't bother replying.
 
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If you want to see the mom be fucked by a horse, that's fine, but understand how stupid it is for you to tell other viewers how they should feel. You keep going on about things as if they matter outside of these 5 minutes shorts.

The boy is having a sexual relationship with his mom, this is what the audience see's for 2 video's, she is shown have a sexual relationship with her son.

The mom then fucks a horse. People who liked the last 2 videos and don't like cuck stuff don't like that. I need you to understand that, if it wasn't suppose to be cuck it should not have involved that mom. If you're going to disagree don't bother replying.
Stop being an insecure bitch. can't handle watching her son seeing her fucked for 2 seconds. Your dad NTR'ed you when he slept with your mother to create your siblings.
 

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If you want to see the mom be fucked by a horse, that's fine, but understand how stupid it is for you to tell other viewers how they should feel. You keep going on about things as if they matter outside of these 5 minutes shorts.

The boy is having a sexual relationship with his mom, this is what the audience see's for 2 video's, she is shown have a sexual relationship with her son.

The mom then fucks a horse. People who liked the last 2 videos and don't like cuck stuff don't like that. I need you to understand that, if it wasn't suppose to be cuck it should not have involved that mom. If you're going to disagree don't bother replying.
It isn't cucking though. Ya'll convince yourselves that NTR/Cucking are eternally linked together and that's just not how it works. This way of thinking is what led to this thread getting locked for like a year because people had such a terrible interpretation of this particular short.

I am not telling you how you should feel, what I am saying is what you're calling it, isn't what it is.

"The boy is having a sexual relationship with his mom, this is what the audience see's for 2 video's, she is shown have a sexual relationship with her son. "

This is just silly, as you're implying that once a character is introduced one way, they can't do anything with that character, except that? You're limiting creativity. Jenny fucked a black guy, a dog, that dog's children, and then her son. Selina has fucked a horse, a transforming being, a dog, and a mutated monster man. June was fucked by the boogeyman, which then led to her fucking her son. So was the boogeyman NTR'd? Cuz that just sounds ridiculous.

There is no size comparisons, there's no declaration of the horse being better than Cole, she isn't swearing herself to his dick only. There's no basis to call it NTR and/or cucking.
 
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There is no size comparisons, there's no declaration of the horse being better than Cole, she isn't swearing herself to his dick only. There's no basis to call it NTR and/or cucking.
Because your understanding of NTR remains strictly within the bounds of either "stealing the main female character" or the main female character declaring a preference for the partner with whom she is neglecting the main male character. It's fine if you choose to see it that way. However, in my many years of watching and reading this kind of material, "NTR" has expanded to include sexual scenarios that involve the main female character which do not include an established partner--e.g. a husband or boyfriend--or the main male character. Because it's the main male character which presumably serves as the entry point for the male audience. You're arguing only a "semantic" position based on a technicality. It's considered NTR not because her son is "her husband" or that it was previously established that they were in a "committed exclusive relationship," but because the narrative of the previous two works in which the male audience attached themselves focused on the sexual relationship between a mother and her son. And therefore, any other sexual relationship which goes beyond the scope of that which attracted the male audience is considered NTR, whether the female character is "stolen or not." Because "cheating" on the MMC is like cheating on the audience. Limiting "Creativity" (Really?) has nothing to do with it.
 

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Because your understanding of NTR remains strictly within the bounds of either "stealing the main female character" or the main female character declaring a preference for the partner with whom she is neglecting the main male character. It's fine if you choose to see it that way. However, in my many years of watching and reading this kind of material, "NTR" has expanded to include sexual scenarios that involve the main female character which do not include an established partner--e.g. a husband or boyfriend--or the main male character. Because it's the main male character which presumably serves as the entry point for the male audience. You're arguing only a "semantic" position based on a technicality. It's considered NTR not because her son is "her husband" or that it was previously established that they were in a "committed exclusive relationship," but because the narrative of the previous two works in which the male audience attached themselves focused on the sexual relationship between a mother and her son. And therefore, any other sexual relationship which goes beyond the scope of that which attracted the male audience is considered NTR, whether the female character is "stolen or not." Because "cheating" on the MMC is like cheating on the audience. Limiting "Creativity" (Really?) has nothing to do with it.
These things have categories and tags for a reason. Infidelity is not a catch all, especially not for one where the current pair are already cheating.

Cheating is its own tag
NTR is its own tag (and even that has its own subcategories like netorase)

Someone having more than one partner doesn’t make it NTR, if that were the case it’d have to go next to every harem collection story ever.
 

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These things have categories and tags for a reason.
This doesn't mean much of anything, because words are malleable and subject to change. You may not like it more than I do, but it has happened, does happen, and will happen again. And arguing on a lexical technicality doesn't move the needle, because if we're going to be technical, NTR, is merely a contraction of "netorare" which applies to all lovers of a cheating partner.

Infidelity is not a catch all, especially not for one where the current pair are already cheating.
Except hypocrisy is not the measure. Is it hypocritical to consider the mom fucking a horse "cheating" while fucking her son "isn't"? Yes. I don't think anyone questions that she's cheating on her husband with her son. That's not the issue. It's that she has had sex with someone/something other than her son (her husband notwithstanding.) It's not, "oh she's cheating," and therefore it's automatically "NTR." It's that her sex with the horse constitutes a faithlessness to her relationship with her son, the main male character with whom the audience predominantly identifies.

Cheating is its own tag
NTR is its own tag (and even that has its own subcategories like netorase)
I'm aware.

Someone having more than one partner doesn’t make it NTR, if that were the case it’d have to go next to every harem collection story ever.
You're missing the point, entirely. The female perspective doesn't matter in this case. The reason Harem stories aren't considered NTR because again, the audience is overwhelmingly male. Harem works usually include the participation of all female characters, whereas NTR merely relegates the main male character to either an unsuspecting dimwit, or a forlorn voyeur. You're attempting to create some gender-parity in works that are created to appeal particularly to a male gaze. Ask yourself: why were the two characters, mother and son, as opposed to "boyfriend and girlfriend"? I would imagine that it wouldn't have been particularly difficult to age up the male character. Because Jackerman wanted to ingratiate his works with the incest crowd. The mother and son don't have to be boyfriend and girlfriend; they don't have to be husband and wife; tautologically, they're parent and child. That is their relationship; that is their bond. The incest genre merely sexualizes this bond. And to have a character, human or not, have coitus with the mother after an already established relationship with the son, the character with whom, and I'm assuming this, the majority of the audience engaged this work (otherwise why approach the story using the incest theme?) constitutes a betrayal of the son, and by extension the audience. That is the basis for the transmuted NTR description.

You can argue, "technically this..." and "technically that..." I mean, if Cole fucked a woman who he thought was his mother, but turned out to be a male in drag disguised as his mother, we can argue to the break of dawn whether or not this makes Cole gay on a technicality. And I doubt there would've been fewer members of Jackerman's subscriber base who would've been less displeased by it.
 
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The incest genre merely sexualizes this bond. And to have a character, human or not, have coitus with the mother after an already established relationship with the son, the character with whom, and I'm assuming this, the majority of the audience engaged this work (otherwise why approach the story using the incest theme?) constitutes a betrayal of the son, and by extension the audience. That is the basis for the transmuted NTR description.

You can argue, "technically this..." and "technically that..." I mean, if Cole fucked a woman who he thought was his mother, but turned out to be a male in drag disguised as his mother, we can argue to the break of dawn whether or not this makes Cole gay on a technicality. And I doubt there would've been fewer members of Jackerman's subscriber base who would've been less displeased by it.
Bears repeating that the shorts are voted by popular vote. So regardless of how much this place had a meltdown over it, it clearly didn't affect the mind of the supporters for them to have it be made. And remember that Cole being there wasn't even in the original script, Jack chose to present it as an option, and it was voted for.

Also noted before but "(otherwise why approach the story using the incest theme?)" the first two were put forth by Jack, and Barnyard was by a gold member. The next time she comes around it probably won't even be a factor. You seem to want to play around its definition, whereas I'm basing my opinion of what constitutes NTR by the tons of actual NTR smut I've read/viewed, be it by a doujin, hentai animation, or irl porn. There's waaay more darker stories out there with a beginning, middle, and end to be compared to just a random idea someone threw out and got made.

We can keep dancing around this, I'm not trying to dictate what you do or don't like. We all see these scripts beforehand, its not like you viewed it not knowing what you were getting. I just know my head is in the camp that didn't get this thread locked in the first place with its incessant rage over fictional characters not acting the way they personally want them to.
 
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